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	<title>Comments on: God, Obama, and Me</title>
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		<title>By: Clay Burell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay Burell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stunned with happiness.&quot; I like that, and relate. Watching a CNN graphic of him and Michelle getting out of a car to meet Bush at the White House tonight just made me ridiculously happy.

And while I was disappointed in Obama for even deigning to subject himself to an interview with Warren, whom I find a disturbing figure (see Talk2Action website for more, search &quot;Rick Warren&quot; there), I thought he handled the reproductive rights &quot;gotcha&quot; quite well too. He was so deft in standing on the middle ground, upon which we can all agree, that the goal is to reduce the need for abortion.

It struck me today that the guy&#039;s a former professor - a teacher. That&#039;s interesting too. He presumably knows the inside of a classroom. I&#039;m curious to watch him on education reform.

Thanks for stopping in, Jennifer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stunned with happiness.&#8221; I like that, and relate. Watching a CNN graphic of him and Michelle getting out of a car to meet Bush at the White House tonight just made me ridiculously happy.</p>
<p>And while I was disappointed in Obama for even deigning to subject himself to an interview with Warren, whom I find a disturbing figure (see Talk2Action website for more, search &#8220;Rick Warren&#8221; there), I thought he handled the reproductive rights &#8220;gotcha&#8221; quite well too. He was so deft in standing on the middle ground, upon which we can all agree, that the goal is to reduce the need for abortion.</p>
<p>It struck me today that the guy&#8217;s a former professor &#8211; a teacher. That&#8217;s interesting too. He presumably knows the inside of a classroom. I&#8217;m curious to watch him on education reform.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping in, Jennifer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My absolute favorite moment of Obama&#039;s intellectual leanings in matters of religion was that televised Saddleback Church interview, where he was asked &quot;when life begins&quot;, and answered, quite truthfully, &quot;That&#039;s above my pay grade.&quot;

He was admitting that it&#039;s something human beings simply can&#039;t know, and anyone who claims to know it with any certainty is making a leap of faith. Not knowledge. Those in favor of women&#039;s reproductive rights have one answer, those against them another. Neither can be absolutely certain, but both act as if they are.

That answer was an act of bravery on his part, because of the potential minefield the question represented. He could have been cagey or clever. Instead, he answered, as he says in this interview, in concert with his values -- values that say all human beings, including him, are flawed and incapable of knowing ultimate things.

I&#039;m still stunned with happiness that we elected this guy. Thanks for linking to the interview. It&#039;s one I hadn&#039;t come across before.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jennifers last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://pukkalibrary.wordpress.com/2008/11/21/googles-editable-search-results/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google’s Editable Search Results&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My absolute favorite moment of Obama&#8217;s intellectual leanings in matters of religion was that televised Saddleback Church interview, where he was asked &#8220;when life begins&#8221;, and answered, quite truthfully, &#8220;That&#8217;s above my pay grade.&#8221;</p>
<p>He was admitting that it&#8217;s something human beings simply can&#8217;t know, and anyone who claims to know it with any certainty is making a leap of faith. Not knowledge. Those in favor of women&#8217;s reproductive rights have one answer, those against them another. Neither can be absolutely certain, but both act as if they are.</p>
<p>That answer was an act of bravery on his part, because of the potential minefield the question represented. He could have been cagey or clever. Instead, he answered, as he says in this interview, in concert with his values &#8212; values that say all human beings, including him, are flawed and incapable of knowing ultimate things.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still stunned with happiness that we elected this guy. Thanks for linking to the interview. It&#8217;s one I hadn&#8217;t come across before.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Jennifers last blog post..<a href="http://pukkalibrary.wordpress.com/2008/11/21/googles-editable-search-results/" rel="nofollow">Google’s Editable Search Results</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Penelope M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Penelope M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The internet is a funny place--I popped over to the interview link just now from Slacktivist, and saw your Diigoing, so came here to check what you&#039;d said about it. :)

It&#039;s really interesting reading for me because of my own fairly complex relationship with faith and background. My mother still jokes about her &quot;eternal search for the right congregation&quot; and I grew up in a household with a definite &quot;try it out and figure it out for yourself&quot; attitude towards religion. (Mom&#039;s dad was a Unitarian Universalist, so I wonder how much of that influence was there.) Through my own experience and study I&#039;ve come to a lot of the same places as Obama, albeit not as a Christian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The internet is a funny place&#8211;I popped over to the interview link just now from Slacktivist, and saw your Diigoing, so came here to check what you&#8217;d said about it. <img src='http://beyond-school.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s really interesting reading for me because of my own fairly complex relationship with faith and background. My mother still jokes about her &#8220;eternal search for the right congregation&#8221; and I grew up in a household with a definite &#8220;try it out and figure it out for yourself&#8221; attitude towards religion. (Mom&#8217;s dad was a Unitarian Universalist, so I wonder how much of that influence was there.) Through my own experience and study I&#8217;ve come to a lot of the same places as Obama, albeit not as a Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis Ludlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curtis Ludlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. 

It is such a relief to have someone who can THINK as head and chief.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Curtis Ludlows last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/bootcampfx/~3/458803584/rapid-reinvention-weight-loss-and.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rapid Reinvention Weight Loss (and Behavior Change)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. </p>
<p>It is such a relief to have someone who can THINK as head and chief.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Curtis Ludlows last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/bootcampfx/~3/458803584/rapid-reinvention-weight-loss-and.html" rel="nofollow">Rapid Reinvention Weight Loss (and Behavior Change)</a></em></abbr></p>
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