Comments on: Unsucky English, Lecture 4: The Seven Deadly Sins, Backwards (Gilgamesh, Book Two) http://beyond-school.org/2008/09/12/gilgamesh-4-blessings-of-the-flesh/ More education. Less schooliness. Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:23:19 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Clay Burell http://beyond-school.org/2008/09/12/gilgamesh-4-blessings-of-the-flesh/comment-page-1/#comment-8011 Clay Burell Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:23:39 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=1292#comment-8011 Lecture 9 is up: <a href="http://beyond-school.org/2009/06/26/gilgamesh-and-the-original-original-sin-unsucky-english-lecture-9-part-one/" rel="nofollow">Gilgamesh and the <i>Original</i> "Original Sin"</a>. Lecture 9 is up: Gilgamesh and the Original “Original Sin”.

]]> By: cburell http://beyond-school.org/2008/09/12/gilgamesh-4-blessings-of-the-flesh/comment-page-1/#comment-7731 cburell Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:06:36 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=1292#comment-7731 Number 8 is up: <a href="http://beyond-school.org/2009/03/18/gilgamesh-8-modern-mischief/" target="_blank">The Modern Mischief of the Gilgamesh Poets</a> Number 8 is up: The Modern Mischief of the Gilgamesh Poets

]]> By: Clay Burell http://beyond-school.org/2008/09/12/gilgamesh-4-blessings-of-the-flesh/comment-page-1/#comment-7700 Clay Burell Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:38:21 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=1292#comment-7700 FYI, number 7 is up: <a href="http://beyond-school.org/2009/03/16/gilgamesh-7-goddess-prays/" rel="nofollow">A Goddess Prays</a> FYI, number 7 is up: A Goddess Prays

]]> By: Clay Burell http://beyond-school.org/2008/09/12/gilgamesh-4-blessings-of-the-flesh/comment-page-1/#comment-7518 Clay Burell Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:46:14 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=1292#comment-7518 Okay, after five months of my own little epic, the next Unsucky Lecture is up: <a href="http://beyond-school.org/2009/02/17/gilgamesh-6-the-new-man/" rel="nofollow">6. Gilgamesh and the Birth of Something New</a>. It’s nice to be back to it. I hope you’ll come back and weigh in. –Clay Okay, after five months of my own little epic, the next Unsucky Lecture is up: 6. Gilgamesh and the Birth of Something New.

It’s nice to be back to it. I hope you’ll come back and weigh in.

–Clay

]]> By: Unsucky English, Lecture 6: Gilgamesh and the Birth of Something New | Beyond School http://beyond-school.org/2008/09/12/gilgamesh-4-blessings-of-the-flesh/comment-page-1/#comment-7511 Unsucky English, Lecture 6: Gilgamesh and the Birth of Something New | Beyond School Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:23:42 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=1292#comment-7511 [...] Questions ~ 2: The Day I Thought Gilgamesh Would Cost Me My Job ~ 3: Adam and Eve, Backwards ~ 4. The Seven Deadly Sins, Backwards ~ 5. Good, Evil, Nature, and the Hero, [...] [...] Questions ~ 2: The Day I Thought Gilgamesh Would Cost Me My Job ~ 3: Adam and Eve, Backwards ~ 4. The Seven Deadly Sins, Backwards ~ 5. Good, Evil, Nature, and the Hero, [...]

]]> By: Good, Evil, Nature, and the Hero - Backwards: Unsucky English, Lecture 4 (Gilgamesh, cont’d) | Beyond School http://beyond-school.org/2008/09/12/gilgamesh-4-blessings-of-the-flesh/comment-page-1/#comment-5681 Good, Evil, Nature, and the Hero - Backwards: Unsucky English, Lecture 4 (Gilgamesh, cont’d) | Beyond School Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:31:06 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=1292#comment-5681 [...] [The Unsucky English Gilgamesh series so far: 1: Dangerous Questions ~ 2: The Day I Thought Gilgamesh Would Cost Me My Job ~ 3: Adam and Eve, Backwards ~ 4. The Seven Deadly Sins, Backwards.]1 [...] [...] [The Unsucky English Gilgamesh series so far: 1: Dangerous Questions ~ 2: The Day I Thought Gilgamesh Would Cost Me My Job ~ 3: Adam and Eve, Backwards ~ 4. The Seven Deadly Sins, Backwards.]1 [...]

]]> By: Clay Burell http://beyond-school.org/2008/09/12/gilgamesh-4-blessings-of-the-flesh/comment-page-1/#comment-5644 Clay Burell Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:36:12 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=1292#comment-5644 Fascinating. Keep those coming, thanks. Fascinating. Keep those coming, thanks.

]]> By: Penelope M http://beyond-school.org/2008/09/12/gilgamesh-4-blessings-of-the-flesh/comment-page-1/#comment-5642 Penelope M Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:01:17 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=1292#comment-5642 I'm in the middle of reading "History of the World in 6 Glasses" (highly recommended) and it's reminded me of how much we as modern people fail to understand historical perspectives on alcohol. We're so strongly influenced by the viewpoint of the temperance movement, and the availability of both distilled liqours and drinkable water that we often forget that beer (ale) and wine were pretty much the only safe things to drink for most people throughout history. It's worth emphasizing how strongly beer and bread were associated with civilization, with the whole idea of "let's create a city" when the idea hadn't happened before. ----- I was also reading something on the origins of the Christian anti-alcohol stance and I can't remember now. I know in the US there's the more recent connection to the 2nd great awakening and the reform movements of the mid 19th century, one of which was temperance. Penelope Ms last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/invisibleteacher/~3/366689898/dear-hollywood-go-make-insipid-movies.html" rel="nofollow">Dear Hollywood: Go make insipid movies about some other profession</a> I’m in the middle of reading “History of the World in 6 Glasses” (highly recommended) and it’s reminded me of how much we as modern people fail to understand historical perspectives on alcohol. We’re so strongly influenced by the viewpoint of the temperance movement, and the availability of both distilled liqours and drinkable water that we often forget that beer (ale) and wine were pretty much the only safe things to drink for most people throughout history.

It’s worth emphasizing how strongly beer and bread were associated with civilization, with the whole idea of “let’s create a city” when the idea hadn’t happened before.
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I was also reading something on the origins of the Christian anti-alcohol stance and I can’t remember now. I know in the US there’s the more recent connection to the 2nd great awakening and the reform movements of the mid 19th century, one of which was temperance.

Penelope Ms last blog post..Dear Hollywood: Go make insipid movies about some other profession

]]> By: Kate Tabor http://beyond-school.org/2008/09/12/gilgamesh-4-blessings-of-the-flesh/comment-page-1/#comment-5619 Kate Tabor Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:38:16 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=1292#comment-5619 I'm not a BF scholar, and Franklin may have been a Diest; as far as his Autobiogaphy goes, he mentions God a handful of times, though Jesus only once that I can find (Virtue 13. "HUMILITY. Imitate Jesus and Socrates.") I imagine that living in Quaker dominated Philadelphia there was no urge to hew to a strict construction of the Bible. Though a catholic (small c) and avid reader, he is clearly conversant with the text and he does quote the book of James in his exhortation to 'do' good not just speak of doing good. Near the beginning of his narrative he thanks God: "And now I speak of thanking God, I desire with all humility to acknowledge that I owe the mentioned happiness of my past life to His kind providence, which lead me to the means I used and gave them success." Did he "buy" the Bible? Maybe, but he didn't seem to believe in any one "way" to experience the divine. His youthful beliefs he sums up this way: "That there is one God, who made all things. "That he governs the world by his providence. "That he ought to be worshiped by adoration, prayer, and thanksgiving. "But that the most acceptable service of God is doing good to man. "That the soul is immortal. "And that God will certainly reward virtue and punish vice either here or hereafter. All of these (with an exception perhaps for the last) would fit within many wisdom traditions across many an age. I have to stop this interesting line of inquiry as my daughters are all demanding my brain space - so to stuffy heads, homework, and post dinner clearing. Thanks again - it's a such a pleasure. Kate Tabors last blog post..<a href="http://tabor330.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/friday/" rel="nofollow">Itchy Friday…</a> I’m not a BF scholar, and Franklin may have been a Diest; as far as his Autobiogaphy goes, he mentions God a handful of times, though Jesus only once that I can find (Virtue 13. “HUMILITY. Imitate Jesus and Socrates.”) I imagine that living in Quaker dominated Philadelphia there was no urge to hew to a strict construction of the Bible. Though a catholic (small c) and avid reader, he is clearly conversant with the text and he does quote the book of James in his exhortation to ‘do’ good not just speak of doing good. Near the beginning of his narrative he thanks God:

“And now I speak of thanking God, I desire with all humility to acknowledge that I owe the mentioned happiness of my past life to His kind providence, which lead me to the means I used and gave them success.”

Did he “buy” the Bible? Maybe, but he didn’t seem to believe in any one “way” to experience the divine. His youthful beliefs he sums up this way:
“That there is one God, who made all things.
“That he governs the world by his providence.
“That he ought to be worshiped by adoration, prayer, and thanksgiving.
“But that the most acceptable service of God is doing good to man.
“That the soul is immortal.
“And that God will certainly reward virtue and punish vice either here or hereafter.

All of these (with an exception perhaps for the last) would fit within many wisdom traditions across many an age.

I have to stop this interesting line of inquiry as my daughters are all demanding my brain space – so to stuffy heads, homework, and post dinner clearing. Thanks again – it’s a such a pleasure.

Kate Tabors last blog post..Itchy Friday…

]]> By: Clay Burell http://beyond-school.org/2008/09/12/gilgamesh-4-blessings-of-the-flesh/comment-page-1/#comment-5618 Clay Burell Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:30:33 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=1292#comment-5618 You are really making we want to work at an IB school. And you're also making me hope you find a way to study elsewhere. You are really making we want to work at an IB school. And you’re also making me hope you find a way to study elsewhere.

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