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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;So Off I Flew to Seek a Newer Land&#8221; &#8211; Notes Beyond Schoolteaching</title>
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		<title>By: Clay Burell</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2008/07/08/so-off-i-flew-to-seek-a-newer-land-notes-beyond-schoolteaching/comment-page-1/#comment-4438</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay Burell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Diane, the Dude is trying.

@Harold, I hope you&#039;ll still be around on Twitter and so forth. Since I&#039;ve only quit school, not teaching, I&#039;ll still be writing about teaching here. (And I&#039;ll look you up if ever I&#039;m in Maine ;-) )

@Dean, you&#039;re a lucky man. And I plan to podcasting again real soon, so expect a tug.

@Chris - Interesting comment. I look forward to exploring all sorts of stuff in the coming months along the lines you&#039;re talking about. As Shirky puts it, &quot;Failure is cheap&quot; now, so it&#039;s good to have time to try a lot of things and see which ones don&#039;t fail.

@Jenny, it&#039;s been so cool working with you. I&#039;ve already told you I&#039;ll still be involved with some of the students from Project Global Cooling next year - from home, on Skype and so forth - and as for the rest, fate&#039;s leaving the story hanging, not me ;-)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Diane, the Dude is trying.</p>
<p>@Harold, I hope you&#8217;ll still be around on Twitter and so forth. Since I&#8217;ve only quit school, not teaching, I&#8217;ll still be writing about teaching here. (And I&#8217;ll look you up if ever I&#8217;m in Maine <img src='http://beyond-school.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>@Dean, you&#8217;re a lucky man. And I plan to podcasting again real soon, so expect a tug.</p>
<p>@Chris &#8211; Interesting comment. I look forward to exploring all sorts of stuff in the coming months along the lines you&#8217;re talking about. As Shirky puts it, &#8220;Failure is cheap&#8221; now, so it&#8217;s good to have time to try a lot of things and see which ones don&#8217;t fail.</p>
<p>@Jenny, it&#8217;s been so cool working with you. I&#8217;ve already told you I&#8217;ll still be involved with some of the students from Project Global Cooling next year &#8211; from home, on Skype and so forth &#8211; and as for the rest, fate&#8217;s leaving the story hanging, not me <img src='http://beyond-school.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny Luca</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2008/07/08/so-off-i-flew-to-seek-a-newer-land-notes-beyond-schoolteaching/comment-page-1/#comment-4434</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny Luca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Clay,
I had wondered if you&#039;d noticed my probing question. couldn&#039;t resist putting it in because I did think of you straight away when I saw the question David Warlick had posed. Thanks for the update -I am interested in your plans; you have helped me immeasurably in navigating this new landscape and I would like to see you do something that you find fulfilling. Once again though, the writer in you leaves us hanging for the next chapter!

Jenny Lucas last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://jennylu.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/the-friend-the-presenter-the-bridge-and-the-blogger/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The friend, the presenter, the bridge and the blogger!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Clay,<br />
I had wondered if you&#8217;d noticed my probing question. couldn&#8217;t resist putting it in because I did think of you straight away when I saw the question David Warlick had posed. Thanks for the update -I am interested in your plans; you have helped me immeasurably in navigating this new landscape and I would like to see you do something that you find fulfilling. Once again though, the writer in you leaves us hanging for the next chapter!</p>
<p>Jenny Lucas last blog post..<a href="http://jennylu.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/the-friend-the-presenter-the-bridge-and-the-blogger/" rel="nofollow">The friend, the presenter, the bridge and the blogger!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Three from Craigslist &#124; Taylor the Teacher</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2008/07/08/so-off-i-flew-to-seek-a-newer-land-notes-beyond-schoolteaching/comment-page-1/#comment-4431</link>
		<dc:creator>Three from Craigslist &#124; Taylor the Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chris Watson</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2008/07/08/so-off-i-flew-to-seek-a-newer-land-notes-beyond-schoolteaching/comment-page-1/#comment-4425</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clay, I can&#039;t wait to see (or be involved with:)) your new explorations. I&#039;m in a school leadership masters program this summer, and we were having a conversation yesterday in our action research methods class about the nature of knowledge, who owns it, how it is generated, etc. I used the metaphor of schools as oil companies/car manufacturers to wonder about the tipping point at which schools, to maintain business-as-usual and government funding, will start strong arming students and teachers, keeping them away from online/hybrid, alternative, free-lanced learning. There&#039;s a school here that&#039;s sort of a model of I think what the future will be (how far away?) called Elite Academy (can&#039;t find their website, but here&#039;s a news article: http://tinyurl.com/67ysvp). They&#039;re getting press because of surfing, but I can imagine a group of parents and kids interested in some particular experiential learning activity or apprenticeship and hiring a team of free-lance educators to put together individualized programs that blend online work, experiential opportunities, real-world experience, community involvement, etc.

Chris Watsons last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://watsoncommon.blogspot.com/2008/03/my-wife-wrote-post-id-been-working-on.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My Wife Wrote The Post I&#039;d Been Working On. And I Had A Blogger Format Blowout&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clay, I can&#8217;t wait to see (or be involved with:)) your new explorations. I&#8217;m in a school leadership masters program this summer, and we were having a conversation yesterday in our action research methods class about the nature of knowledge, who owns it, how it is generated, etc. I used the metaphor of schools as oil companies/car manufacturers to wonder about the tipping point at which schools, to maintain business-as-usual and government funding, will start strong arming students and teachers, keeping them away from online/hybrid, alternative, free-lanced learning. There&#8217;s a school here that&#8217;s sort of a model of I think what the future will be (how far away?) called Elite Academy (can&#8217;t find their website, but here&#8217;s a news article: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/67ysvp)" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/67ysvp)</a>. They&#8217;re getting press because of surfing, but I can imagine a group of parents and kids interested in some particular experiential learning activity or apprenticeship and hiring a team of free-lance educators to put together individualized programs that blend online work, experiential opportunities, real-world experience, community involvement, etc.</p>
<p>Chris Watsons last blog post..<a href="http://watsoncommon.blogspot.com/2008/03/my-wife-wrote-post-id-been-working-on.html" rel="nofollow">My Wife Wrote The Post I&#8217;d Been Working On. And I Had A Blogger Format Blowout</a></p>
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		<title>By: Harold Shaw</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2008/07/08/so-off-i-flew-to-seek-a-newer-land-notes-beyond-schoolteaching/comment-page-1/#comment-4419</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clay - Like you I left teaching this summer, but for different reasons, I had to think what I would be doing and would be able to do in 10 years at age 61.  I strongly believe that Teaching is a younger person&#039;s &quot;gig&quot;.  Teaching requires drive, stamina and a lot of patience. As I get older I find that I have less of each and wouldn&#039;t have been doing anything all that different in the next 10 years.  Some individuals may be able to function at a high level as a teacher as they get &quot;old and decrepit&quot; as one student called me last year, but most can&#039;t.  

But I am glad that you will have the opportunity to keep teaching students and who knows maybe you will start earning the big bucks as an Educational Consultant and &quot;travel the world&quot; espousing the &quot;word&quot; according to Clay. :)  If you ever get up to Maine, look me up and I will buy dinner &amp; grape.

I wish you the best, as you have been a great &quot;twitter and flock&quot; mentor for me.  I am able to use Flock at my new job as my primary browser - so thank you again.

Harold</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clay &#8211; Like you I left teaching this summer, but for different reasons, I had to think what I would be doing and would be able to do in 10 years at age 61.  I strongly believe that Teaching is a younger person&#8217;s &#8220;gig&#8221;.  Teaching requires drive, stamina and a lot of patience. As I get older I find that I have less of each and wouldn&#8217;t have been doing anything all that different in the next 10 years.  Some individuals may be able to function at a high level as a teacher as they get &#8220;old and decrepit&#8221; as one student called me last year, but most can&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>But I am glad that you will have the opportunity to keep teaching students and who knows maybe you will start earning the big bucks as an Educational Consultant and &#8220;travel the world&#8221; espousing the &#8220;word&#8221; according to Clay. <img src='http://beyond-school.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   If you ever get up to Maine, look me up and I will buy dinner &amp; grape.</p>
<p>I wish you the best, as you have been a great &#8220;twitter and flock&#8221; mentor for me.  I am able to use Flock at my new job as my primary browser &#8211; so thank you again.</p>
<p>Harold</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Shareski</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2008/07/08/so-off-i-flew-to-seek-a-newer-land-notes-beyond-schoolteaching/comment-page-1/#comment-4404</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Shareski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your hesitancy about the job resonates with me. I&#039;m extremely fortunate not to have to deal with administrative stuff; at least to too much. As I usually state, &quot;I don&#039;t do boxes and wires. I do teaching and learning with the boxes and wires&quot;. I&#039;ve been fortunate to write much of my job description and even the parts I haven&#039;t been able to write focus on students learning. It&#039;s not perfect but for the most part I&#039;m satisfied with it. That&#039;s not true for all these positions outside the classroom.

You&#039;re influence and contributions as a classroom teacher are invaluable. Your work inspires me and provides clear context for what good teaching and learning looks like. 

BTW, we should do another podcast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your hesitancy about the job resonates with me. I&#8217;m extremely fortunate not to have to deal with administrative stuff; at least to too much. As I usually state, &#8220;I don&#8217;t do boxes and wires. I do teaching and learning with the boxes and wires&#8221;. I&#8217;ve been fortunate to write much of my job description and even the parts I haven&#8217;t been able to write focus on students learning. It&#8217;s not perfect but for the most part I&#8217;m satisfied with it. That&#8217;s not true for all these positions outside the classroom.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re influence and contributions as a classroom teacher are invaluable. Your work inspires me and provides clear context for what good teaching and learning looks like. </p>
<p>BTW, we should do another podcast.</p>
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		<title>By: diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve chosen your path. There are still ties to earth that drag you down, but also glimpses of sky and intimations of freedom.

The students will find you, you&#039;ll interact with eager learners of all ages. There are compromises and disappointments ahead, but, also, satisfactions and triumphs.

And the Dude abides ;-)

dianes last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://dmcordell.blogspot.com/2008/07/truthville.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Truthville&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve chosen your path. There are still ties to earth that drag you down, but also glimpses of sky and intimations of freedom.</p>
<p>The students will find you, you&#8217;ll interact with eager learners of all ages. There are compromises and disappointments ahead, but, also, satisfactions and triumphs.</p>
<p>And the Dude abides <img src='http://beyond-school.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>dianes last blog post..<a href="http://dmcordell.blogspot.com/2008/07/truthville.html" rel="nofollow">Truthville</a></p>
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