Comments on: WordPress Plugin Offer: Read Comments with Posts in Feed Readers http://beyond-school.org/2008/05/26/wordpress-comments-plugin/ A field headquarters in the War on Schooliness. Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:35:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Adrienne http://beyond-school.org/2008/05/26/wordpress-comments-plugin/#comment-3955 Adrienne Tue, 27 May 2008 01:37:36 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=707#comment-3955 @Clay Like you, I am more apt to think that the comments deserve to be included. That's probably because I enjoy the level of conversation that comments bring about -- this is the social aspect of blogging that can go unnoticed without seeing them. Interestingly, this post and Arthus's first comment appeared in my reader, too -- and I am using Outlook 2007 to view your blog (don't ask me why -- somehow your blog feed got mixed up in all my school portal RSS feeds and I got lazy and just left it there. Curiously, what this means is that your blog, unlike others in my Google Reader, is one I actually read every day b/c I see the feed with all my boring, schooly e-mail. I know you will enjoy the irony in that!). Obviously, at the time the feed was checked by Outlook, Arthus's comment was there, but by the time I clicked to go read the full post, 5 more comments had been made. This is all helping my case as to which blog reader to "consolidate" all my feeds in, as I'm a bit of a mess right now when it comes to my feeds -- I have them all over the place. Looks like Google Reader is it. Bloglines, although it works for this Plugin, just isn't slick enough for me. However, considering the snail-like pace I am moving at, by the time I get everything consolidated, who knows what newfangled plugin will be working and where... @Clay
Like you, I am more apt to think that the comments deserve to be included. That’s probably because I enjoy the level of conversation that comments bring about — this is the social aspect of blogging that can go unnoticed without seeing them.

Interestingly, this post and Arthus’s first comment appeared in my reader, too — and I am using Outlook 2007 to view your blog (don’t ask me why — somehow your blog feed got mixed up in all my school portal RSS feeds and I got lazy and just left it there. Curiously, what this means is that your blog, unlike others in my Google Reader, is one I actually read every day b/c I see the feed with all my boring, schooly e-mail. I know you will enjoy the irony in that!). Obviously, at the time the feed was checked by Outlook, Arthus’s comment was there, but by the time I clicked to go read the full post, 5 more comments had been made.

This is all helping my case as to which blog reader to “consolidate” all my feeds in, as I’m a bit of a mess right now when it comes to my feeds — I have them all over the place. Looks like Google Reader is it. Bloglines, although it works for this Plugin, just isn’t slick enough for me. However, considering the snail-like pace I am moving at, by the time I get everything consolidated, who knows what newfangled plugin will be working and where…

]]> By: Ilya Grigorik http://beyond-school.org/2008/05/26/wordpress-comments-plugin/#comment-3952 Ilya Grigorik Mon, 26 May 2008 14:42:21 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=707#comment-3952 Clay, the plugin is an interesting idea, but the one technical problem with it would be due to content caching by Google Reader, or any other reader for that matter. (i.e. it will cache your post, with let's say 1 comment, and display that to all readers, even though you may have many more comments on it now). The FF plugin we developed at AideRSS does not address this problem directly, but we do provide the most up-to-date count of the number of comments in your blog when you have the extension installed. If anyone is interested in trying it out, use the following URL to get an immediate invite: http://gr.aiderss.com/?techcrunch Ilya Grigoriks last blog post..<a href="http://blog.aiderss.com/2008/05/15/now-with-100-more-twitter-openid/" rel="nofollow">Now with 100% more Twitter & OpenID!</a> Clay, the plugin is an interesting idea, but the one technical problem with it would be due to content caching by Google Reader, or any other reader for that matter. (i.e. it will cache your post, with let’s say 1 comment, and display that to all readers, even though you may have many more comments on it now).

The FF plugin we developed at AideRSS does not address this problem directly, but we do provide the most up-to-date count of the number of comments in your blog when you have the extension installed. If anyone is interested in trying it out, use the following URL to get an immediate invite: http://gr.aiderss.com/?techcrunch

Ilya Grigoriks last blog post..Now with 100% more Twitter & OpenID!

]]> By: Arthus Erea http://beyond-school.org/2008/05/26/wordpress-comments-plugin/#comment-3949 Arthus Erea Mon, 26 May 2008 05:47:27 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=707#comment-3949 Derrick: I get that. I was just giving it as an alternative for us to use on the vast majority of blogs which do not (and probably never will) include comments in posts. Arthus Ereas last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/myflaws/~3/297530420/" rel="nofollow">Top 5 Qualities of Good Teachers</a> Derrick: I get that. I was just giving it as an alternative for us to use on the vast majority of blogs which do not (and probably never will) include comments in posts.

Arthus Ereas last blog post..Top 5 Qualities of Good Teachers

]]> By: Derrick Kwa http://beyond-school.org/2008/05/26/wordpress-comments-plugin/#comment-3948 Derrick Kwa Mon, 26 May 2008 05:45:09 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=707#comment-3948 Arthus: the difference between the likes of the Google Reader plugin and this plugin is that this is done on the blogger's end. Which means that your readers don't have to do anything to see the comments in the feed. The Google Reader plugin is good, but it requires more work from the reader - to install the plugin. And not all your blog readers will be using Firefox, for example. This is a way to make it easy for all your readers to follow the conversation - no matter what reader/browser they use. Derrick Kwas last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/derrickkwa/suigeneris/~3/297897459/" rel="nofollow">What I want Social Media Breakfast: Singapore to be</a> Arthus: the difference between the likes of the Google Reader plugin and this plugin is that this is done on the blogger’s end. Which means that your readers don’t have to do anything to see the comments in the feed. The Google Reader plugin is good, but it requires more work from the reader - to install the plugin. And not all your blog readers will be using Firefox, for example. This is a way to make it easy for all your readers to follow the conversation - no matter what reader/browser they use.

Derrick Kwas last blog post..What I want Social Media Breakfast: Singapore to be

]]> By: Arthus Erea http://beyond-school.org/2008/05/26/wordpress-comments-plugin/#comment-3946 Arthus Erea Mon, 26 May 2008 05:19:34 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=707#comment-3946 AideRSS actually doesn't do anything with comments. Instead, it assigns a sort of "ranking" to posts based upon comments, bookmarks, popularity, views, etc. Then, you can sort Google Reader or create a custom feed based upon those ratings. Arthus Ereas last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/myflaws/~3/297530420/" rel="nofollow">Top 5 Qualities of Good Teachers</a> AideRSS actually doesn’t do anything with comments. Instead, it assigns a sort of “ranking” to posts based upon comments, bookmarks, popularity, views, etc. Then, you can sort Google Reader or create a custom feed based upon those ratings.

Arthus Ereas last blog post..Top 5 Qualities of Good Teachers

]]> By: Arthus Erea http://beyond-school.org/2008/05/26/wordpress-comments-plugin/#comment-3945 Arthus Erea Mon, 26 May 2008 04:59:56 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=707#comment-3945 By the way, I posted the above comment from within Google Reader! :) Screenshot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/arthuserea/2522830639/ Arthus Ereas last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/myflaws/~3/297530420/" rel="nofollow">Top 5 Qualities of Good Teachers</a> By the way, I posted the above comment from within Google Reader! :) Screenshot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/arthuserea/2522830639/

Arthus Ereas last blog post..Top 5 Qualities of Good Teachers

]]> By: Arthus Erea http://beyond-school.org/2008/05/26/wordpress-comments-plugin/#comment-3944 Arthus Erea Mon, 26 May 2008 04:58:37 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=707#comment-3944 Another alternative is the superb Better Greader plugin from Lifehacker: http://lifehacker.com/software/exclusive-lifehacker-download/trick-out-google-reader-with-better-greader-262020.php Beyond offering some awesome restyling of the Google Reader admin (http://www.flickr.com/photos/arthuserea/2516505671/), it can embed the full (original) page into the reader. You can turn the setting on selectively, or have it automatic. The great part of this is you see the original article, complete with comments, and the comment form. That way, you can comment without leaving the comfort of your feed reader! There are some alternative methods, but the great thing about this is it combines the efficiency of Google Reader (the only reader capable of easily processing thousands of items in a short amount of time) with the ability to comment and view conversations selectively. Arthus Ereas last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/myflaws/~3/297530420/" rel="nofollow">Top 5 Qualities of Good Teachers</a> Another alternative is the superb Better Greader plugin from Lifehacker: http://lifehacker.com/software/exclusive-lifehacker-download/trick-out-google-reader-with-better-greader-262020.php

Beyond offering some awesome restyling of the Google Reader admin (http://www.flickr.com/photos/arthuserea/2516505671/), it can embed the full (original) page into the reader. You can turn the setting on selectively, or have it automatic. The great part of this is you see the original article, complete with comments, and the comment form. That way, you can comment without leaving the comfort of your feed reader!

There are some alternative methods, but the great thing about this is it combines the efficiency of Google Reader (the only reader capable of easily processing thousands of items in a short amount of time) with the ability to comment and view conversations selectively.

Arthus Ereas last blog post..Top 5 Qualities of Good Teachers

]]> By: Derrick Kwa http://beyond-school.org/2008/05/26/wordpress-comments-plugin/#comment-3943 Derrick Kwa Mon, 26 May 2008 03:52:00 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=707#comment-3943 Yeah, that is one thing about the plugin that I'm unsure about as well - the scalability as comments increase. That said, my posts tend to not get any more than 5-10 comments per post, so it's generally okay for me. Oh, on another note, the virtual internship didn't really save me from the army (the army's a compulsory thing that all guys have to go through), but it did give me something to do while I wait to go into the army. And it's an awesome experience so far. =). Yeah, that is one thing about the plugin that I’m unsure about as well - the scalability as comments increase. That said, my posts tend to not get any more than 5-10 comments per post, so it’s generally okay for me.

Oh, on another note, the virtual internship didn’t really save me from the army (the army’s a compulsory thing that all guys have to go through), but it did give me something to do while I wait to go into the army. And it’s an awesome experience so far. =).

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