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	<title>Comments on: The Most Important Edu Website I Know: Education for Well-Being Strikes Again</title>
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	<description>A field headquarters in the War on Schooliness.</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bill Farren</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2008/05/13/bill-farrens-peak-ai/#comment-3866</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Farren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clay: Just wanted to thank you for continually supporting ed4wb and for your very generous praise. Coming from someone that is continually reflecting about education and what it can be, it means a lot.
Sarah: You said it very well: there should certainly be room in everyone's RSS reader for Beyond-School. That's an easy decision. And yes, I have to agree with you again Sarah, kids know when we are wasting their time. Those who are least willing to have their time wasted "fail" or drop out.

Bill Farrens last blog post..&lt;a href="http://www.ed4wb.org/?p=79" rel="nofollow"&gt;Peak Air - Charge It!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clay: Just wanted to thank you for continually supporting ed4wb and for your very generous praise. Coming from someone that is continually reflecting about education and what it can be, it means a lot.<br />
Sarah: You said it very well: there should certainly be room in everyone&#8217;s RSS reader for Beyond-School. That&#8217;s an easy decision. And yes, I have to agree with you again Sarah, kids know when we are wasting their time. Those who are least willing to have their time wasted &#8220;fail&#8221; or drop out.</p>
<p>Bill Farrens last blog post..<a href="http://www.ed4wb.org/?p=79" rel="nofollow">Peak Air - Charge It!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Bray</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2008/05/13/bill-farrens-peak-ai/#comment-3857</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Bray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 23:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The great experiment in Project-Based Learning in little Galena, Alaska was the closest I've personally came to meaningful education in a school system (of course, they closed us down in a couple of years, because we were actually doing something useful). Students made all their own choices; they studied what they wanted to study and then produced a presentation and paper about the topic. Each presentation was open to the public, and due to the lack of entertain outlets in Galena, we often had several local people watching. I'd love to take the action research process and teach a course with students who desire to study something and solve problems of their choice. Once the see the process of choosing a subject/topic/problem, gathering information, planning a solution, and putting the solution into action, they only need teachers to guide them. And this is the big fear -- it is an economic problem. No one wants to lose their job, so few people want to do the real job that needs to be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great experiment in Project-Based Learning in little Galena, Alaska was the closest I&#8217;ve personally came to meaningful education in a school system (of course, they closed us down in a couple of years, because we were actually doing something useful). Students made all their own choices; they studied what they wanted to study and then produced a presentation and paper about the topic. Each presentation was open to the public, and due to the lack of entertain outlets in Galena, we often had several local people watching. I&#8217;d love to take the action research process and teach a course with students who desire to study something and solve problems of their choice. Once the see the process of choosing a subject/topic/problem, gathering information, planning a solution, and putting the solution into action, they only need teachers to guide them. And this is the big fear &#8212; it is an economic problem. No one wants to lose their job, so few people want to do the real job that needs to be done.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent Baxter</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2008/05/13/bill-farrens-peak-ai/#comment-3849</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent Baxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is hot. we're pushing video through digital storytelling w/ kids--it's so important that our teachers be able to model it well. check out an outstanding example here: http://thedeputyhead.com/?p=68

Vincent Baxters last blog post..&lt;a href="http://thedeputyhead.com/?p=73" rel="nofollow"&gt;folklife festival&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is hot. we&#8217;re pushing video through digital storytelling w/ kids&#8211;it&#8217;s so important that our teachers be able to model it well. check out an outstanding example here: <a href="http://thedeputyhead.com/?p=68" rel="nofollow">http://thedeputyhead.com/?p=68</a></p>
<p>Vincent Baxters last blog post..<a href="http://thedeputyhead.com/?p=73" rel="nofollow">folklife festival</a></p>
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		<title>By: Clay Burell</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2008/05/13/bill-farrens-peak-ai/#comment-3844</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay Burell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Sarah. Literally: right on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Sarah. Literally: right on.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2008/05/13/bill-farrens-peak-ai/#comment-3843</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clay--Thanks for posting this here.  I've been following Bill Farren's feed and saw this video when it went up.  There's room in my RSS for both of you, and there should be in others too.  Although I don't have the following you do,  I've posted some of his other videos on my blog and in both the Nings in which I actively participate.  

I want to draw together what you wrote about teaching writing(Roses), your Grammar on the Titanic post, and the responses Bill got from his students.  

We (societal we) have got to stop wasting students' time.  They know it, we know it (I hope) and I what I fear most is what we're doing to the students who buy into our rinky dink units.  

Yes, it's my job with the young ones to force them to do stuff they may not want to do.  SOMETIMES.  But I must always respect their individual affinities and get their minds working on the very real problems we all face.  A sixth graders' thoughts on fossil fuel dependence are not irrelevant.  They shouldn't think so and neither should their teachers.

Thanks again.

Sarahs last blog post..&lt;a href="http://littechlearning.blogspot.com/2008/05/can-we-play-webkins-and-call-it.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Can we play Webkins and call it professional development?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clay&#8211;Thanks for posting this here.  I&#8217;ve been following Bill Farren&#8217;s feed and saw this video when it went up.  There&#8217;s room in my RSS for both of you, and there should be in others too.  Although I don&#8217;t have the following you do,  I&#8217;ve posted some of his other videos on my blog and in both the Nings in which I actively participate.  </p>
<p>I want to draw together what you wrote about teaching writing(Roses), your Grammar on the Titanic post, and the responses Bill got from his students.  </p>
<p>We (societal we) have got to stop wasting students&#8217; time.  They know it, we know it (I hope) and I what I fear most is what we&#8217;re doing to the students who buy into our rinky dink units.  </p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s my job with the young ones to force them to do stuff they may not want to do.  SOMETIMES.  But I must always respect their individual affinities and get their minds working on the very real problems we all face.  A sixth graders&#8217; thoughts on fossil fuel dependence are not irrelevant.  They shouldn&#8217;t think so and neither should their teachers.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
<p>Sarahs last blog post..<a href="http://littechlearning.blogspot.com/2008/05/can-we-play-webkins-and-call-it.html" rel="nofollow">Can we play Webkins and call it professional development?</a></p>
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