Comments on: Social Networks as a Political Force for Education (and, More Students 2.0 Sought) http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/ . . . and beyond "schooliness" - notes of an uncensored teacher Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:32:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Clay Burell http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/#comment-1417 Clay Burell Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:18:50 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/#comment-1417 Carolyn, Thanks for this. We're thinking remarkably alike. Thanks for the lead, will follow it. And stay tuned :) Carolyn, Thanks for this. We’re thinking remarkably alike. Thanks for the lead, will follow it. And stay tuned :)

]]> By: Carolyn Foote http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/#comment-1416 Carolyn Foote Fri, 04 Jan 2008 04:44:55 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/#comment-1416 Oops--I was certainly not implying our students are not regular bloggers. They are the greatest and I'm enjoying reading Student 2.0. Sorry--blogging while tired! What I was trying to say is that having a mix of students and teachers and administrators would be fascinating. And I like the idea of basing it on the Students 2.0 blog model. <em>Carolyn Foote's last blog post..<a href='http://futura.edublogs.org/2007/12/31/where-are-we-going-where-have-we-been/' rel="nofollow">Where are we going, where have we been?</a></em> Oops–I was certainly not implying our students are not regular bloggers. They are the greatest and I’m enjoying reading Student 2.0. Sorry–blogging while tired!

What I was trying to say is that having a mix of students and teachers and administrators would be fascinating. And I like the idea of basing it on the Students 2.0 blog model.

Carolyn Foote’s last blog post..Where are we going, where have we been?

]]> By: Carolyn Foote http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/#comment-1415 Carolyn Foote Fri, 04 Jan 2008 04:42:25 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/#comment-1415 Clay, I'm interested in your idea. I agree that YouTube could be a powerful vehicle. I was browsing through the EDin08 site--have you seen it? They are making an effort to bring education issues into the conversation. However, I'm not too keen on some of their key ideas, or want to know more about the details of their support, though I agree that we need to get education on the plate as an issue, and particularly technology in education. I like the idea of a site like student 2.0. Something like what Edin08 proposes to do....but with a group of bloggers like LeaderTalk has, raising issues that all candidates should be paying attention to. Students as well as regular bloggers could be included. It's clear the candidates are avoiding discussing NCLB....or at least most of them are. It's a hot potato--and I worry that by avoiding talking about that, they are avoiding the issue altogether. I think a much more attractive issue is that of global education....I think there's a "market" for us to talk about that idea, so to speak, that people would be receptive to. Just my "two cents worth!" Carolyn <em>Carolyn Foote's last blog post..<a href='http://futura.edublogs.org/2007/12/31/where-are-we-going-where-have-we-been/' rel="nofollow">Where are we going, where have we been?</a></em> Clay,

I’m interested in your idea. I agree that YouTube could be a powerful vehicle.

I was browsing through the EDin08 site–have you seen it? They are making an effort to bring education issues into the conversation. However, I’m not too keen on some of their key ideas, or want to know more about the details of their support, though I agree that we need to get education on the plate as an issue, and particularly technology in education.

I like the idea of a site like student 2.0. Something like what Edin08 proposes to do….but with a group of bloggers like LeaderTalk has, raising issues that all candidates should be paying attention to. Students as well as regular bloggers could be included.

It’s clear the candidates are avoiding discussing NCLB….or at least most of them are. It’s a hot potato–and I worry that by avoiding talking about that, they are avoiding the issue altogether.

I think a much more attractive issue is that of global education….I think there’s a “market” for us to talk about that idea, so to speak, that people would be receptive to.

Just my “two cents worth!” Carolyn

Carolyn Foote’s last blog post..Where are we going, where have we been?

]]> By: Clay Burell http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/#comment-1376 Clay Burell Wed, 02 Jan 2008 02:11:52 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/#comment-1376 Kevin, the best concrete examples I can give are linked in the post above, and they're the ones that catapulted Students 2.0 onto the del.icio.us hotlist - and then to popurls and other sites - within three hours. http://beyond-school.org/2007/12/29/a-belated-reflection-on-the-students-20-experience/ See Scott's post (also linked) as well. <em>Clay Burell's last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/beyond-school/wsoU/~3/209444136/' rel="nofollow">Social Networks as a Political Force for Education (and, More Students 2.0 Sought)</a></em> Kevin, the best concrete examples I can give are linked in the post above, and they’re the ones that catapulted Students 2.0 onto the del.icio.us hotlist - and then to popurls and other sites - within three hours.

http://beyond-school.org/2007/12/29/a-belated-reflection-on-the-students-20-experience/

See Scott’s post (also linked) as well.

Clay Burell’s last blog post..Social Networks as a Political Force for Education (and, More Students 2.0 Sought)

]]> By: Clay Burell http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/#comment-1372 Clay Burell Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:29:11 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/#comment-1372 Note to self: Invite Students 2.0 to exercise their own influence in generating this political swell. They have more readers than I do; if they wrote about political issues affecting education from their perspective, some of their posts might be especially digg-worthy. And we really have to open our minds to using non-text-based forms of communication. Why do none of us use video/digital storytelling as a routine means of communicating and broadcasting our views? It shouldn't take so long for another "Did You Know" to make a splash. We just don't change our 20th c. texting habits. And it seems like Students 2.0 have inherited those same habits from us. So far, no multimedia - no podcasts, videos (except for Sean's promo), no photos (okay, Lindsea did use original artwork for one of her posts). End of note to self :) Note to self: Invite Students 2.0 to exercise their own influence in generating this political swell. They have more readers than I do; if they wrote about political issues affecting education from their perspective, some of their posts might be especially digg-worthy.

And we really have to open our minds to using non-text-based forms of communication. Why do none of us use video/digital storytelling as a routine means of communicating and broadcasting our views?

It shouldn’t take so long for another “Did You Know” to make a splash. We just don’t change our 20th c. texting habits. And it seems like Students 2.0 have inherited those same habits from us. So far, no multimedia - no podcasts, videos (except for Sean’s promo), no photos (okay, Lindsea did use original artwork for one of her posts).

End of note to self :)

]]> By: Kevin H http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/#comment-1368 Kevin H Tue, 01 Jan 2008 20:41:20 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/#comment-1368 Clay Another interesting idea (political force) and I would like to know more about how it might develop. It does seem as if we have this convergence of people coming together more and more, and if there are ways to harness that energy and power, that would be a movement in itself. (Of course, we have to remember that there is likely be divergent political views, too). Can you point us to any examples of how this might look? I am one of those folks who sometimes struggles to get my head wrapped around an idea until I see some semblance of it and then it starts to fit together. I agree that "complexity would kill this thing" as the simpler it is, the more likely you have that entire 'middle crowd' of folks who want to get involved with the fewest hurdles possible. Take care Kevin <em>Kevin H's last blog post..<a href='http://dogtrax.edublogs.org/2008/01/01/matts-video-in-the-classroom-site/' rel="nofollow">Matt's Video in the Classroom Site</a></em> Clay
Another interesting idea (political force) and I would like to know more about how it might develop. It does seem as if we have this convergence of people coming together more and more, and if there are ways to harness that energy and power, that would be a movement in itself. (Of course, we have to remember that there is likely be divergent political views, too).
Can you point us to any examples of how this might look?
I am one of those folks who sometimes struggles to get my head wrapped around an idea until I see some semblance of it and then it starts to fit together.
I agree that “complexity would kill this thing” as the simpler it is, the more likely you have that entire ‘middle crowd’ of folks who want to get involved with the fewest hurdles possible.
Take care
Kevin

Kevin H’s last blog post..Matt’s Video in the Classroom Site

]]> By: Clay Burell http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/#comment-1367 Clay Burell Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:56:42 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/#comment-1367 The how is an open question. As far as I see, complexity will kill the thing. Having one person write something, then everybody bookmark it, would be simplest. Maybe start a wiki with a list of targets - textbook industry, NCLB, etc - and give volunteers the choice of which they'll write. Have a "bookmarking blitz" schedule on the same page. Man the Twitter barricades for the scheduled cannonade. Watch the weekly (?) posts go viral on del.icio.us, digg, stumbleupon, reddit, etc. Then see what sorts of responses and echoes they get in the mainstream media, etc. We could do the same with short YouTube videos. This is basically what the Ron Paul netroots have done, I think (I don't know that, I just suspect it). We'd need to make sure people posting exploited metadata SEO stuff - meta-tagging and so forth. Not hard or complicated, but really powerful for attracting Google searches. The how is an open question. As far as I see, complexity will kill the thing. Having one person write something, then everybody bookmark it, would be simplest.

Maybe start a wiki with a list of targets - textbook industry, NCLB, etc - and give volunteers the choice of which they’ll write.

Have a “bookmarking blitz” schedule on the same page. Man the Twitter barricades for the scheduled cannonade.

Watch the weekly (?) posts go viral on del.icio.us, digg, stumbleupon, reddit, etc. Then see what sorts of responses and echoes they get in the mainstream media, etc.

We could do the same with short YouTube videos.

This is basically what the Ron Paul netroots have done, I think (I don’t know that, I just suspect it).

We’d need to make sure people posting exploited metadata SEO stuff - meta-tagging and so forth. Not hard or complicated, but really powerful for attracting Google searches.

]]> By: diane http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/#comment-1366 diane Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:39:02 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/2008/01/02/social-networking-as-political-activism-for-education-and-more-students-20-sought/#comment-1366 Clay, I like your ideas about harnessing the power of the web as an agent for social/educational change. Would we collaboratively construct a posting, then blog it simultaneously, each write our own variation on a theme, or something else entirely? Keep us in the loop; fun times ahead! diane <em>diane's last blog post..<a href='http://dmcordell.blogspot.com/2007/12/thats-big-ten-four.html' rel="nofollow">That's a Big Ten-Four</a></em> Clay,

I like your ideas about harnessing the power of the web as an agent for social/educational change.

Would we collaboratively construct a posting, then blog it simultaneously, each write our own variation on a theme, or something else entirely?

Keep us in the loop; fun times ahead!

diane

diane’s last blog post..That’s a Big Ten-Four

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