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	<title>Comments on: Truly Critical: Thinking about Science, Religion, and Goodness</title>
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	<description>. . . and beyond "schooliness"          -           notes of a 20th c. teaching drop-out</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 09:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PLN at KIS &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Perspective: People Always Leave</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/12/25/truly-critical-thinking-about-science-religion-and-goodness/#comment-3922</link>
		<dc:creator>PLN at KIS &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Perspective: People Always Leave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 04:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] By the way, I wrote about that post, and my own views on all of this, in Truly Critical: Thinking About Science, Religion, and Goodness. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/Kramer"><img src="http://beyond-school.org/nfs/c01/h03/mnt/32929/domains/beyond-school.org/html/wp-content/plugins/kramer/kramer.php?kramer=gif-icon" class="technorati-balloon" alt="Kramer auto Pingback" style="border:0;" /></a>[&#8230;] By the way, I wrote about that post, and my own views on all of this, in Truly Critical: Thinking About Science, Religion, and Goodness. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: A Sunday Science Sermon &#124; Beyond School</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/12/25/truly-critical-thinking-about-science-religion-and-goodness/#comment-3614</link>
		<dc:creator>A Sunday Science Sermon &#124; Beyond School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 04:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I could share it with that doctor. (See this post - one of my favorite on this blog - for more on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I could share it with that doctor. (See this post - one of my favorite on this blog - for more on [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;What is Schooliness?&#8221; - Overview and Open Thread &#124; Beyond School</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/12/25/truly-critical-thinking-about-science-religion-and-goodness/#comment-2408</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;What is Schooliness?&#8221; - Overview and Open Thread &#124; Beyond School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When Bulgaria is, per capita, more scientifically literate than America about biology, geology, and genetics - and when even science teachers are afraid of the “e-word” - little more needs to be said. I say it anyway, in this post that got 1,000 hits in 8 hours (a record for me): Truly Critical: On Science, Religion, and Goodness. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] When Bulgaria is, per capita, more scientifically literate than America about biology, geology, and genetics - and when even science teachers are afraid of the “e-word” - little more needs to be said. I say it anyway, in this post that got 1,000 hits in 8 hours (a record for me): Truly Critical: On Science, Religion, and Goodness. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;What is Schooliness?&#8221; - Discursus and Open Thread (Clay Burell guest-post 2) &#187; Moving at the Speed of Creativity</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/12/25/truly-critical-thinking-about-science-religion-and-goodness/#comment-2376</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;What is Schooliness?&#8221; - Discursus and Open Thread (Clay Burell guest-post 2) &#187; Moving at the Speed of Creativity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] When Bulgaria is, per capita, more scientifically literate than America about biology, geology, and genetics - and when even science teachers are afraid of the &#8220;e-word&#8221; - little more needs to be said. I say it anyway, in this post that got 1,000 hits in 8 hours (a record for me): Truly Critical: On Science, Religion, and Goodness. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/Kramer"><img src="http://beyond-school.org/nfs/c01/h03/mnt/32929/domains/beyond-school.org/html/wp-content/plugins/kramer/kramer.php?kramer=gif-icon" class="technorati-balloon" alt="Kramer auto Pingback" style="border:0;" /></a>[&#8230;] When Bulgaria is, per capita, more scientifically literate than America about biology, geology, and genetics - and when even science teachers are afraid of the &#8220;e-word&#8221; - little more needs to be said. I say it anyway, in this post that got 1,000 hits in 8 hours (a record for me): Truly Critical: On Science, Religion, and Goodness. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: vastleft's blog</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/12/25/truly-critical-thinking-about-science-religion-and-goodness/#comment-2287</link>
		<dc:creator>vastleft's blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] a shred of evidence to support their existence &#8212; in any way irrational? And have you ever watched Richard Dawkins and company? In four words: danger, danger, warning, warning! ]]&#62; Chris Hedges, who previously railed against [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/Kramer"><img src="http://beyond-school.org/nfs/c01/h03/mnt/32929/domains/beyond-school.org/html/wp-content/plugins/kramer/kramer.php?kramer=gif-icon" class="technorati-balloon" alt="Kramer auto Pingback" style="border:0;" /></a>[&#8230;] a shred of evidence to support their existence &mdash; in any way irrational? And have you ever watched Richard Dawkins and company? In four words: danger, danger, warning, warning! ]]&gt; Chris Hedges, who previously railed against [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Burell</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/12/25/truly-critical-thinking-about-science-religion-and-goodness/#comment-1464</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay Burell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 00:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Side note: Remember those Korean missionaries to Afghanistan that cut such a ridiculous profile - all tragedy aside - when the Taliban kidnapped them (hello - your chances of survival are better if you have a picnic on the freeway)?  They're from my neighborhood here in Korea.  And they're not unusual at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Side note: Remember those Korean missionaries to Afghanistan that cut such a ridiculous profile - all tragedy aside - when the Taliban kidnapped them (hello - your chances of survival are better if you have a picnic on the freeway)?  They&#8217;re from my neighborhood here in Korea.  And they&#8217;re not unusual at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Burell</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/12/25/truly-critical-thinking-about-science-religion-and-goodness/#comment-1463</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay Burell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 00:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Louise: Your seconding of @Redwood's sentiments confirms what a colleague of mine who went back to Michigan after leaving us Korea says: that America is a scary place today for anyone who thinks critically about the status and role of religion in the Republic.  Meanwhile, Korea, where I work, has seen a dramatic rise in evangelical churches in which talking in tongues and gibbering about creationism and intelligent design has taken firm root.  So America is exporting this darkness to the wider world, while Americans themselves who know it's pernicious allow it to proceed unchecked.
It's disturbing. We've never needed science more than now, and it's never been opposed by such a money and propaganda machine from "the Land of the Free" - which no longer seems to be "the Home of the Brave."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Louise: Your seconding of @Redwood&#8217;s sentiments confirms what a colleague of mine who went back to Michigan after leaving us Korea says: that America is a scary place today for anyone who thinks critically about the status and role of religion in the Republic.  Meanwhile, Korea, where I work, has seen a dramatic rise in evangelical churches in which talking in tongues and gibbering about creationism and intelligent design has taken firm root.  So America is exporting this darkness to the wider world, while Americans themselves who know it&#8217;s pernicious allow it to proceed unchecked.<br />
It&#8217;s disturbing. We&#8217;ve never needed science more than now, and it&#8217;s never been opposed by such a money and propaganda machine from &#8220;the Land of the Free&#8221; - which no longer seems to be &#8220;the Home of the Brave.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Louise Maine</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/12/25/truly-critical-thinking-about-science-religion-and-goodness/#comment-1453</link>
		<dc:creator>Louise Maine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 16:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am right with redwood.  I define myself as spiritual but not religious.  My son is as well.  My daughter is atheist and my husband feels it is not a prayer without thees and thous.  I am tired of the hypocrisy especially prevalent in this town (we worship that weather forecasting groundhog, Punxsutawney Phil).  I am asked why I do not go to church anymore.  Oh, what  I would love to say.  I put my foot in my mouth a lot but haven't gone there. My one friend who is a converted Catholic (for marriage) has heard me and she knows just what I mean.

I do talk about God in class but use it as a general term - I believe some other religions are more on track. Religion has done more to hinder science development and solving problems in the past and certainly as well today.

&lt;em&gt;Louise Maine's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/HurricaneMaine/~3/211177560/real-model.html' rel="nofollow"&gt;A real model?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am right with redwood.  I define myself as spiritual but not religious.  My son is as well.  My daughter is atheist and my husband feels it is not a prayer without thees and thous.  I am tired of the hypocrisy especially prevalent in this town (we worship that weather forecasting groundhog, Punxsutawney Phil).  I am asked why I do not go to church anymore.  Oh, what  I would love to say.  I put my foot in my mouth a lot but haven&#8217;t gone there. My one friend who is a converted Catholic (for marriage) has heard me and she knows just what I mean.</p>
<p>I do talk about God in class but use it as a general term - I believe some other religions are more on track. Religion has done more to hinder science development and solving problems in the past and certainly as well today.</p>
<p><em>Louise Maine&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/HurricaneMaine/~3/211177560/real-model.html' rel="nofollow">A real model?</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Joan Bushwell's Chimpanzee Refuge : I'd like to thank the Academy...</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/12/25/truly-critical-thinking-about-science-religion-and-goodness/#comment-1433</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Joan Bushwell's Chimpanzee Refuge : I'd like to thank the Academy...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 22:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] writes this of scientists and by extension technologists in his recent (and recommended) article Truly Critical Thinking About Science, Religion and Goodness: ...scientists, through the "miracle" of human reason, have eradicated diseases for literally [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/Kramer"><img src="http://beyond-school.org/nfs/c01/h03/mnt/32929/domains/beyond-school.org/html/wp-content/plugins/kramer/kramer.php?kramer=gif-icon" class="technorati-balloon" alt="Kramer auto Pingback" style="border:0;" /></a>[&#8230;] writes this of scientists and by extension technologists in his recent (and recommended) article Truly Critical Thinking About Science, Religion and Goodness: &#8230;scientists, through the &#8220;miracle&#8221; of human reason, have eradicated diseases for literally [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Burell</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/12/25/truly-critical-thinking-about-science-religion-and-goodness/#comment-1419</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay Burell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 06:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc Bushwell - "Thank Goodness" for your blog, which led to this post.  I'm following your link again as I type - I'd seen and bookmarked Beyond Belief more than once, but neglected to drill more deeply into it.  Thanks for the nudge :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc Bushwell - &#8220;Thank Goodness&#8221; for your blog, which led to this post.  I&#8217;m following your link again as I type - I&#8217;d seen and bookmarked Beyond Belief more than once, but neglected to drill more deeply into it.  Thanks for the nudge <img src='http://beyond-school.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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