My K12Online07 Keynote Chatroom Takeaways
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What’s that handy remote David is using? and is he filming with a webcam?
Clay Burell (KR) : Was watching online, but paused to wait for download so I can chat and watch at same time.
Clay Burell (KR) : Where are you, Jennifer? (”The borders have changed,” Dave is saying as we chat.)
JenniferW (US) : SoCalifornia — and you??
Clay Burell (KR) : Seoul
I sent this to my principal and director at an IB conference in Singapore.
I’m gonna focus now and listen. Chime in later.
“our task is to find the new boundaries” - beyond filtering all?
“I do a lot of my work here at Starbucks” - funny example of change lol
“I was the last generation who looked at his father…”…and believed he was seeing his own future.” Quotable.
Sheryl Nussbaum-Beach (US) : Clay–I loved that part
Marie Coleman (US) : @clay I loved that quote, too!
one of the hard things: talking about this world, our experiences, and……communicating that the point is not to boast, but to testify! David seemed to feel that danger a minute ago.
“Their world is not stable.”
That “natives” thing: my “kids” are digital slackers. RSS? What’s that?
“magical, alien powers…hear and see through walls”
meanwhile Ning AP Lit student auto-notify email appears on desktop
multiverse
Quotable: “We want the students to be the children we want to teach…”"…rather than teaching the children that they are.” [I wish we could call them people, but I teach high school so it's my own thing.]
Always true, but now it means “cutting off their tentacles.”
Funny thing: my kids resist school 2.0. They don’t know how to use this to learn.
Justin Medved (Th) : those who are here have already “cut their tenticles” Why did you cut yours?
dharter (th) : @clayb why do you think they resist?
Kim Cofino (TH) : that’s interesting clay - only a tool for fun?
Clay Burell (KR) : Kim: no, I think it’s just conditioning. School is for books and paper, and…
…yes, digital is just for fun. Again: blogging? RSS? Connective writing? Skype? Not a clue for them.
Ståle Brokvam (PH) : Some kids have bad experiences with teachers trying to use computers for school, I guess
dharter (th) : A kid the other day said to me that he hates the term Web 2.0…makes sense, it’s 1.0 to him!
Dharter: LOL. So true. But does he rss and feed read, podcast, etc?
dharter (th) : Read a great editorial about facebook and how it was just a fun place for kids until adults got a hold of it and started using it to really network.
Ståle Brokvam (PH) : Teachers trying to force computers into a very limited model
Clay Burell (KR) : Stale: I think it’s psychology too: they can’t envision how real learning can happen anew
Clay Burell (KR) : Like, “Cellphones in the classroom is like farting in church!”
gradster(1)/ (US) : I need to talk to them
dharter (th) : Lazy? Doing it at home anyway?
gradster(1)/ (US) : alright clay get me together with them
mrsdurff (US) : i have kids making video games
Clay Burell (KR) : Gradster, see me at burell.blogspot.com if you’re serious.
gradster(1)/ (US) : Okay everybody please tell me how anyone would have bad experiences with using a computer for education
mrsdurff (US) : well it does happen grad
Ståle Brokvam (PH) : True - they may not have be very clear about their own learning process
bye jo - i’m way late about 1001 Tales or other collab - haven’t forgot.
Kim Cofino (TH) : The ISB team learning together: http://www.flickr.com/photos/superkimbo/1514396561 /
Justin Medved (Th) : “the part of learning that should define our students education experiences are the “side-trips”
Clay Burell (KR) : Justin, I want to learn more about your curriculum work at ISB. The learn20cn ning a good resource?
Justin Medved (Th) : Clay - www.newliteracy.wikispaces.com/ please come aboard
Clay Burell (KR) : I will, Justin, thanks
“find it, evaluate it, organize it into ‘personal digital libraries’”- concise
“we’re overwhelmed” - LOL - boy, are we. planning PD is best example.
Another rr-web literacy skill: “The art of noticing.” Nobody looks at the website. They ask for help instead (my own quote)
Kim Cofino (TH) : @clay absolutely
Clay Burell (KR) : People get annoyed when I say, “Look for it. It’ll be there.” (Smiling, lips bleeding)
Then they say, “Oh, there it is.”
Kim Cofino (TH) : @clay was just talking about this today - we need to cultivate a problem solving attitude - you can figure it out
Clay Burell (KR) : yeah, A. November talked about posting schoolwide “problem-solving process” in……all classrooms.
“It is so much within the grasp of those of us who are paying attention.” HUGE qualifier after “us.” The challenge.
Quotable (wry): “You could rely on gravity to drive the curriculum.”
BAM: “Our students are now more literate than our teachers.” Did I hear that right? I agree [re: DIGITAL literacy], but…BAM.
A bit of an epiphany there. Though still, I’m more digiliterate than most of my HS students.
I don’t see the “native” wizardry as much as gaming and facebooking.
3 convergences > new boundaries? 1. Info-savvy students (nice qualifier - “They need us……to help them learn to use and drive it.”) Conclusion at 39 minutes ff a MUST-WATCH.
blog: “we are not afraid”
just finished. David lists his gear in credits = thanks!
I look forward to discussions of setting those “new boundaries” as we go.
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Thanks for posting this conversation. It reminded me of a sign I came across somewhere and now have posted up in my library: This Computer Has No Brain. Use Your Own.
Love the new look in your new space!
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Lesley
22 Oct 07 at 1:39 am