Comments on: Overdrive: That Classroom Blogging Grail, and How Teaching and Grading Obstruct It http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/26/overdrive-that-classroom-blogging-grail-and-how-teaching-and-grading-obstruct-it/ More learning. Less schooliness. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:49:39 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Goal for a Learning Portfolio: Solve a problem « Center for Teaching, Learning, & Technology http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/26/overdrive-that-classroom-blogging-grail-and-how-teaching-and-grading-obstruct-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4804 Goal for a Learning Portfolio: Solve a problem « Center for Teaching, Learning, & Technology Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:44:45 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=364#comment-4804 [...] Clay Burrell echos some of Downes’ ideas when he writes about learning writing in a a blog (aka learning portfolio) situated in community and in context, [...] [...] Clay Burrell echos some of Downes’ ideas when he writes about learning writing in a a blog (aka learning portfolio) situated in community and in context, [...]

]]> By: Bible 2.0 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/26/overdrive-that-classroom-blogging-grail-and-how-teaching-and-grading-obstruct-it/comment-page-1/#comment-3342 Bible 2.0 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:38:15 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=364#comment-3342 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Bible 2.0 To take full advantage of Flickr, you should use a JavaScript-enabled browser and install the latest version of the Macromedia Flash Player.  F.decorate(_ge('button_bar'), F._photo_button_bar).bar_go_go_go(1032572214, 0); F.decorate(_ge('photo_notes'), F._photo_notes).notes_go_go_go(1032572214, 'http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1076/1032572214_3c74a33be1_t.jpg', '3.1444'); View jeff_w_brooktree's map Taken in a place with no name (See more photos or videos here) The robot writes the book. Or is it called "printing" in this case? beyond-school.org/2007/09/26/overdrive-that-classroom-blo...  [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] Bible 2.0 To take full advantage of Flickr, you should use a JavaScript-enabled browser and install the latest version of the Macromedia Flash Player.  F.decorate(_ge(‘button_bar’), F._photo_button_bar).bar_go_go_go(1032572214, 0); F.decorate(_ge(‘photo_notes’), F._photo_notes).notes_go_go_go(1032572214, ‘http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1076/1032572214_3c74a33be1_t.jpg’, ‘3.1444′); View jeff_w_brooktree’s map Taken in a place with no name (See more photos or videos here) The robot writes the book. Or is it called "printing" in this case? beyond-school.org/2007/09/26/overdrive-that-classroom-blo…  [...]

]]> By: Bible 2.0 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/26/overdrive-that-classroom-blogging-grail-and-how-teaching-and-grading-obstruct-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1960 Bible 2.0 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:49:57 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=364#comment-1960 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Bible 2.0 To take full advantage of Flickr, you should use a JavaScript-enabled browser and install the latest version of the Macromedia Flash Player. F.decorate(_ge('button_bar'), F._photo_button_bar).bar_go_go_go(1032572214, 0);F.decorate(_ge('photo_notes'), F._photo_notes).notes_go_go_go(1032572214, 'http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1076/1032572214_3c74a33be1_t.jpg', '3.1444'); View jeff_w_brooktree's map Taken in (See more photos here) The robot writes the book. Or is it called "printing" in this case? beyond-school.org/2007/09/26/overdrive-that-classroom-blo...  [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] Bible 2.0 To take full advantage of Flickr, you should use a JavaScript-enabled browser and install the latest version of the Macromedia Flash Player. F.decorate(_ge(‘button_bar’), F._photo_button_bar).bar_go_go_go(1032572214, 0);F.decorate(_ge(‘photo_notes’), F._photo_notes).notes_go_go_go(1032572214, ‘http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1076/1032572214_3c74a33be1_t.jpg’, ‘3.1444′); View jeff_w_brooktree’s map Taken in (See more photos here) The robot writes the book. Or is it called "printing" in this case? beyond-school.org/2007/09/26/overdrive-that-classroom-blo…  [...]

]]> By: Clay Burell http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/26/overdrive-that-classroom-blogging-grail-and-how-teaching-and-grading-obstruct-it/comment-page-1/#comment-608 Clay Burell Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:48:00 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=364#comment-608 Megan, I hope you read this. Let's talk offline (or on, I don't care) about the possibility of at least introducing our young writers to each other. I don't believe in "assigning students" to reply to blogs - who "assigns" real readers to like another writer? But to at least expose them to each other and "invite" connecting - that I'd love to play with. Megan, I hope you read this. Let’s talk offline (or on, I don’t care) about the possibility of at least introducing our young writers to each other. I don’t believe in “assigning students” to reply to blogs – who “assigns” real readers to like another writer? But to at least expose them to each other and “invite” connecting – that I’d love to play with.

]]> By: Megan Howard http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/26/overdrive-that-classroom-blogging-grail-and-how-teaching-and-grading-obstruct-it/comment-page-1/#comment-607 Megan Howard Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:05:00 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=364#comment-607 Clay - <br/>Glad I ran across your blog...I have 46 students blogging independently in Atlanta and most are doing a great job. Excited to learn from you and bounce around ideas. I have seen AMAZING things when encouraging students to "self-select" topics - I get a bit of everything which encourages a larger audience and a variety of comments. At first, the kids were super hesistant - there's a shift that must happen from being told your whole life what to write about to creating quality independent pieces. Clay –
Glad I ran across your blog…I have 46 students blogging independently in Atlanta and most are doing a great job. Excited to learn from you and bounce around ideas. I have seen AMAZING things when encouraging students to “self-select” topics – I get a bit of everything which encourages a larger audience and a variety of comments. At first, the kids were super hesistant – there’s a shift that must happen from being told your whole life what to write about to creating quality independent pieces.

]]> By: Miguel http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/26/overdrive-that-classroom-blogging-grail-and-how-teaching-and-grading-obstruct-it/comment-page-1/#comment-592 Miguel Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:00:00 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=364#comment-592 Clay, I was wondering how to teach writing using Read/Write Web tools (doing a workshop) and your post asked some great questions, but more importantly, forced me to ask some. Thank you!<br/><br/>Best wishes,<br/>Miguel Guhlin<br/>Around the Corner-MGuhlin.net<br/>http://mguhlin.net Clay, I was wondering how to teach writing using Read/Write Web tools (doing a workshop) and your post asked some great questions, but more importantly, forced me to ask some. Thank you!

Best wishes,
Miguel Guhlin
Around the Corner-MGuhlin.net
http://mguhlin.net

]]> By: Laura Gibbs http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/26/overdrive-that-classroom-blogging-grail-and-how-teaching-and-grading-obstruct-it/comment-page-1/#comment-581 Laura Gibbs Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:52:00 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=364#comment-581 I thought your post was GREAT and the discussion was very thought-provoking for me.<br/><br/>I am pragmatic about grades: I would not give grades at all if it were my own choice, but students are 100% trained for OVER A DECADE of their life (ugh) to regard grading as essential, so there's no avoiding this issue.<br/><br/>My goal then is just to make sure that the super-hard-working students get the recognition they deserve, while the students with low motivation get some positive and negative reinforcement to prod them along. I don't make any claims that one person's "A" work is the same as another person's "A" work, and I have huge philosophical problems with such a position.<br/><br/>I just want my students to WRITE, enjoy their own writing, enjoy each other's writing, and improve their writing - those are goals I have for every single student, no matter what their level of writing ability and background. So far, my system is working to do that, so I am happy with it. Pragmatically. :-) I thought your post was GREAT and the discussion was very thought-provoking for me.

I am pragmatic about grades: I would not give grades at all if it were my own choice, but students are 100% trained for OVER A DECADE of their life (ugh) to regard grading as essential, so there’s no avoiding this issue.

My goal then is just to make sure that the super-hard-working students get the recognition they deserve, while the students with low motivation get some positive and negative reinforcement to prod them along. I don’t make any claims that one person’s “A” work is the same as another person’s “A” work, and I have huge philosophical problems with such a position.

I just want my students to WRITE, enjoy their own writing, enjoy each other’s writing, and improve their writing – those are goals I have for every single student, no matter what their level of writing ability and background. So far, my system is working to do that, so I am happy with it. Pragmatically. :-)

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