Comments on: Edublogger IQ Contest: Preliminary Results, New Shout-out, and Philosophical Close http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/25/edublogger-iq-contest-preliminary-results-new-shout-out-and-philosophical-close/ A field headquarters in the War on Schooliness. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:01:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Another Edublogger IQ Challenge: Geography Time | Beyond School http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/25/edublogger-iq-contest-preliminary-results-new-shout-out-and-philosophical-close/#comment-1207 Another Edublogger IQ Challenge: Geography Time | Beyond School Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:08:18 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=358#comment-1207 [...] Report back here with a comment. Let’s get Diane Cordell and Steven Downes in the ring again - time to “flip another [...] [...] Report back here with a comment. Let’s get Diane Cordell and Steven Downes in the ring again - time to “flip another [...]

]]> By: Diane Flips the Goat-Sucker (and Stephen Takes a Fall) | Beyond School http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/25/edublogger-iq-contest-preliminary-results-new-shout-out-and-philosophical-close/#comment-820 Diane Flips the Goat-Sucker (and Stephen Takes a Fall) | Beyond School Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:54:19 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=358#comment-820 [...] in the spirit of fun (and as a rematch of our “Edublogger IQ Live Wrestling Extravaganza” a couple months ago, which is my all-time favorite post on this blog) - and because I spent [...] [...] in the spirit of fun (and as a rematch of our “Edublogger IQ Live Wrestling Extravaganza” a couple months ago, which is my all-time favorite post on this blog) - and because I spent [...]

]]> By: Downes http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/25/edublogger-iq-contest-preliminary-results-new-shout-out-and-philosophical-close/#comment-547 Downes Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:36:00 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=358#comment-547 If you go back, you'll notice I corrected the spelling of 'population' when I posted my results. <br/><br/>Not sure if I'll have time for the other test as I'm on the road...<br/><br/>Besides which, I've learned from these tests, someone always does better, always... If you go back, you’ll notice I corrected the spelling of ‘population’ when I posted my results.

Not sure if I’ll have time for the other test as I’m on the road…

Besides which, I’ve learned from these tests, someone always does better, always…

]]> By: Clay Burell http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/25/edublogger-iq-contest-preliminary-results-new-shout-out-and-philosophical-close/#comment-542 Clay Burell Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:46:00 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=358#comment-542 Chris, Diane, (nice blogs, by the way, Chris!), doesn't this all point to what we all know, and Doug touched on already? Tests themselves fail, as a rule. Chris, Diane, (nice blogs, by the way, Chris!), doesn’t this all point to what we all know, and Doug touched on already? Tests themselves fail, as a rule.

]]> By: Chris L http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/25/edublogger-iq-contest-preliminary-results-new-shout-out-and-philosophical-close/#comment-541 Chris L Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:17:00 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=358#comment-541 I'm a sad, sad edublogger. My stats: <br/><br/>* Your Number Correct: 24/25<br/>* Average Number Correct: 18.41/25<br/>* Percentile: 97.27%<br/>* Time Taken: 1:37 <br/><br/>However, I remain convinced that the test is flawed. I don't believe I missed any-- the "trick" questions were pretty obvious. I’m a sad, sad edublogger. My stats:

* Your Number Correct: 24/25
* Average Number Correct: 18.41/25
* Percentile: 97.27%
* Time Taken: 1:37

However, I remain convinced that the test is flawed. I don’t believe I missed any– the “trick” questions were pretty obvious.

]]> By: diane http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/25/edublogger-iq-contest-preliminary-results-new-shout-out-and-philosophical-close/#comment-540 diane Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:25:00 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=358#comment-540 Clay, <br/><br/>Once I saw the time entered as part of my results, I knew I was in trouble. <br/><br/>Does speedy equate to smart? I am a more reflective thinker and don't always "react" with the same depth of knowledge that is shown by my more considered answers.<br/><br/>In regards to Doug's comments: an elementary student was asked what color a banana was. He said: white (because the part he eats is white) rather than yellow (the color of the skin) and was marked wrong. His "deeper thinking" probably got him delegated to the "needs help" group! Clay,

Once I saw the time entered as part of my results, I knew I was in trouble.

Does speedy equate to smart? I am a more reflective thinker and don’t always “react” with the same depth of knowledge that is shown by my more considered answers.

In regards to Doug’s comments: an elementary student was asked what color a banana was. He said: white (because the part he eats is white) rather than yellow (the color of the skin) and was marked wrong. His “deeper thinking” probably got him delegated to the “needs help” group!

]]> By: Clay Burell http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/25/edublogger-iq-contest-preliminary-results-new-shout-out-and-philosophical-close/#comment-538 Clay Burell Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:44:00 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=358#comment-538 "Compliance and a desire to please is often mistaken for intelligence." --that's a quotable, Doug. Inculcating those two traits in the young is often mistaken for teaching, similarly.<br/><br/>Your son was sharp! Choosing the wrong answer to get the right score! Love it.<br/><br/>Back to the ring. “Compliance and a desire to please is often mistaken for intelligence.” –that’s a quotable, Doug. Inculcating those two traits in the young is often mistaken for teaching, similarly.

Your son was sharp! Choosing the wrong answer to get the right score! Love it.

Back to the ring.

]]> By: Doug Noon http://beyond-school.org/2007/09/25/edublogger-iq-contest-preliminary-results-new-shout-out-and-philosophical-close/#comment-537 Doug Noon Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:35:00 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=358#comment-537 Clay, good answer to my question. This post is excellent; the graphics are really fun. And just for the record, I didn't know the test was timed, either.<br/><br/>The question of what is smart came up in the car driving home with my two middle schoolers today. My son said that he was given a set of questions to answer in school (kind of like this test, just for fun) with an item that asked, "Which of these is not a planet?" a)Mars; b)Earth; c)Pluto; d)the Moon. He said a lot of kids chose Pluto. He also said he noticed a 1997 copyright date on the bottom of the page, which explained the answer choices for him. <br/><br/>I told him that being smart on a test is it's own kind of smart. It means figuring out what the test writer wants you to say, not what's right, or what you really think. Looking for ambiguity and understanding what the test is designed to do helps. And that's a whole different way of thinking about taking a test than simply trying to answer the questions correctly.<br/><br/>Compliance and a desire to please is often mistaken for intelligence.<br/>Many years ago I read Tom Sawyer to my class of second graders, and it inspired one of the bolder little boys to organize his friends out on the playground to act suspicious so the teacher on duty would "think they were doing something wrong." He was a thinker, that kid. Clay, good answer to my question. This post is excellent; the graphics are really fun. And just for the record, I didn’t know the test was timed, either.

The question of what is smart came up in the car driving home with my two middle schoolers today. My son said that he was given a set of questions to answer in school (kind of like this test, just for fun) with an item that asked, “Which of these is not a planet?” a)Mars; b)Earth; c)Pluto; d)the Moon. He said a lot of kids chose Pluto. He also said he noticed a 1997 copyright date on the bottom of the page, which explained the answer choices for him.

I told him that being smart on a test is it’s own kind of smart. It means figuring out what the test writer wants you to say, not what’s right, or what you really think. Looking for ambiguity and understanding what the test is designed to do helps. And that’s a whole different way of thinking about taking a test than simply trying to answer the questions correctly.

Compliance and a desire to please is often mistaken for intelligence.
Many years ago I read Tom Sawyer to my class of second graders, and it inspired one of the bolder little boys to organize his friends out on the playground to act suspicious so the teacher on duty would “think they were doing something wrong.” He was a thinker, that kid.

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