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	<title>Comments on: 1:1 Notes #2: Student Blogging / Parent Permission Policy</title>
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		<title>By: AUP &#38; Permission Forms - Elementary Tech Teachers</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/08/11/11-notes-2-student-blogging-parent-permission-policy/#comment-4575</link>
		<dc:creator>AUP &#38; Permission Forms - Elementary Tech Teachers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] hoping to avoid complicated legalese for this if I can. This is an interesting take on it.  And here are a few permission letters that could be modified to [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/Kramer"><img src="http://beyond-school.org/nfs/c01/h03/mnt/32929/domains/beyond-school.org/html/wp-content/plugins/kramer/kramer.php?kramer=gif-icon" class="technorati-balloon" alt="Kramer auto Pingback" style="border:0;" /></a>[...] hoping to avoid complicated legalese for this if I can. This is an interesting take on it.  And here are a few permission letters that could be modified to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Classroom Blogging Policy: The Gnarly Issues &#124; Beyond School</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/08/11/11-notes-2-student-blogging-parent-permission-policy/#comment-711</link>
		<dc:creator>Classroom Blogging Policy: The Gnarly Issues &#124; Beyond School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mark Ahlness, Patrick Higgins, Konrad Glogowski, Chris Watson, Diane Cordell, and many others from a conversation months ago for helping birth it - I can&#8217;t help but think that the letter is a secondary issue.  Bigger [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mark Ahlness, Patrick Higgins, Konrad Glogowski, Chris Watson, Diane Cordell, and many others from a conversation months ago for helping birth it - I can&#8217;t help but think that the letter is a secondary issue.  Bigger [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Human-Activity-causes-global-warminglj7mfv</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/08/11/11-notes-2-student-blogging-parent-permission-policy/#comment-596</link>
		<dc:creator>Human-Activity-causes-global-warminglj7mfv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post - thanks for your insight - together we can save our planet so future generations can enjoy it too!Thanks!P. Lanet IIIConcerned Earth DwellerIs Global Warming A Scam...? Want to learn more?&lt;a HREF="http://www.iKnowAboutit.com/global_warming" REL="nofollow"&gt;www.iKnowAboutit.com/Global_Warming&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post - thanks for your insight - together we can save our planet so future generations can enjoy it too!Thanks!P. Lanet IIIConcerned Earth DwellerIs Global Warming A Scam&#8230;? Want to learn more?<a HREF="http://www.iKnowAboutit.com/global_warming" REL="nofollow">http://www.iKnowAboutit.com/Global_Warming</a></p>
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		<title>By: diane</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/08/11/11-notes-2-student-blogging-parent-permission-policy/#comment-416</link>
		<dc:creator>diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clay,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This year will be my (and my district's) first experience with student blogging. I like the "treat it as normal" approach but agree with Patrick that a back-up letter is a good plan. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Our kids participate is a number of locally-publicized activities without any problems. The district newsletter is not online (at least, not yet) so linking there is a non-issue for the present. Come to think of it, that might be a good public service project for my students: creating some type of local/school current events link from our school webpage.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You have inspired me - again. Can't wait to get started! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Diane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clay,</p>
<p>This year will be my (and my district&#8217;s) first experience with student blogging. I like the &#8220;treat it as normal&#8221; approach but agree with Patrick that a back-up letter is a good plan. </p>
<p>Our kids participate is a number of locally-publicized activities without any problems. The district newsletter is not online (at least, not yet) so linking there is a non-issue for the present. Come to think of it, that might be a good public service project for my students: creating some type of local/school current events link from our school webpage.</p>
<p>You have inspired me - again. Can&#8217;t wait to get started! </p>
<p>Diane</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Burell</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/08/11/11-notes-2-student-blogging-parent-permission-policy/#comment-415</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay Burell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 04:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You crack me up, Doug. And I hereby kill the haloscan. Let's see if the spam increases without it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You crack me up, Doug. And I hereby kill the haloscan. Let&#8217;s see if the spam increases without it.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Noon</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/08/11/11-notes-2-student-blogging-parent-permission-policy/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Noon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 03:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The blog ate my original comment because the captcha wasn't visible. I have a heck of a time leaving comments on your blog due to technical glitches. :(&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyhow, the options should be kept to a minimum, I agree. I offer them because they are part of the district form, and I'm not writing new policy; I'm simply applying it to a new purpose. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The conversation with kids is essential. I think elementary students need moderation where high schoolers can probably be trusted to understand the difference between public and private speech. In any case, the kids should know that people keep blogs for various purposes, and a school blog is not a personal blog.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think I had another point in my other comment, but I can't remember what it was. Must not have been too important, eh?  Hope this one flies. I should remember to copy these things to the clipboard before I try to publish them. It's a me v. Blogspot issue. Sorry. I enjoy your blog, but the haloscan window gives me fits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blog ate my original comment because the captcha wasn&#8217;t visible. I have a heck of a time leaving comments on your blog due to technical glitches. <img src='http://beyond-school.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyhow, the options should be kept to a minimum, I agree. I offer them because they are part of the district form, and I&#8217;m not writing new policy; I&#8217;m simply applying it to a new purpose. </p>
<p>The conversation with kids is essential. I think elementary students need moderation where high schoolers can probably be trusted to understand the difference between public and private speech. In any case, the kids should know that people keep blogs for various purposes, and a school blog is not a personal blog.</p>
<p>I think I had another point in my other comment, but I can&#8217;t remember what it was. Must not have been too important, eh?  Hope this one flies. I should remember to copy these things to the clipboard before I try to publish them. It&#8217;s a me v. Blogspot issue. Sorry. I enjoy your blog, but the haloscan window gives me fits.</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Burell</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/08/11/11-notes-2-student-blogging-parent-permission-policy/#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay Burell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark - Nice to hear your input. Like Doug's, it will be valuable for the teachers in our elementary and middle school.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And thanks for the links :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark - Nice to hear your input. Like Doug&#8217;s, it will be valuable for the teachers in our elementary and middle school.</p>
<p>And thanks for the links <img src='http://beyond-school.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Clay Burell</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/08/11/11-notes-2-student-blogging-parent-permission-policy/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay Burell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, Thanks for the link.  I like the idea of offering a series of options, though managing that on a school-wide level - did this parent say no, or anonymously, or first name, or full name - seems like it might become aversive to teachers (like using anagrams, which I tried last year), and difficult to manage.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for the posts revealing personal things about families, I see your point.  Do you think a combination of teacher monitoring of blogs, plus a preliminary conversation in class about the difference between private writing and public writing, might mitigate that issue?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I always have to remember that I speak from the high school point of view, and that the issues differ for different age groups.  Thanks for the reminder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, Thanks for the link.  I like the idea of offering a series of options, though managing that on a school-wide level - did this parent say no, or anonymously, or first name, or full name - seems like it might become aversive to teachers (like using anagrams, which I tried last year), and difficult to manage.</p>
<p>As for the posts revealing personal things about families, I see your point.  Do you think a combination of teacher monitoring of blogs, plus a preliminary conversation in class about the difference between private writing and public writing, might mitigate that issue?</p>
<p>I always have to remember that I speak from the high school point of view, and that the issues differ for different age groups.  Thanks for the reminder.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Ahlness</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/08/11/11-notes-2-student-blogging-parent-permission-policy/#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Ahlness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clay, I like your "business as usual" approach to this. I've had &lt;a HREF="http://roomtwelve.com" REL="nofollow"&gt;my third graders&lt;/a&gt; blogging for the last two years. Have never asked for parent permission. Our district AUP and web publishing guidelines clearly say student work and names can appear. They even say pics are OK, with no identifying names. I've been publishing student work on the web for over a dozen years with more stringent guidelines than those. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Since every single word they write must be approved by me before it appears on the web, it is no different from what schools have been doing with student work for a long time. However, if my kids could publish without my approval, it would be a different ball game - I wouldn't do it, even if their parents said OK.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The only signed agreement is between me and my kids, a code of ethics, safety, and responsibility, the &lt;a HREF="http://www.halcyon.com/arborhts/bloggers_contract.doc" REL="nofollow"&gt;Bloggers Contract&lt;/a&gt;, adapted from David Warlick's &lt;a HREF="http://classblogmeister.com/bloggers_contract.doc" REL="nofollow"&gt;original&lt;/a&gt;. Good luck - Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clay, I like your &#8220;business as usual&#8221; approach to this. I&#8217;ve had <a HREF="http://roomtwelve.com" REL="nofollow">my third graders</a> blogging for the last two years. Have never asked for parent permission. Our district AUP and web publishing guidelines clearly say student work and names can appear. They even say pics are OK, with no identifying names. I&#8217;ve been publishing student work on the web for over a dozen years with more stringent guidelines than those. </p>
<p>Since every single word they write must be approved by me before it appears on the web, it is no different from what schools have been doing with student work for a long time. However, if my kids could publish without my approval, it would be a different ball game - I wouldn&#8217;t do it, even if their parents said OK.</p>
<p>The only signed agreement is between me and my kids, a code of ethics, safety, and responsibility, the <a HREF="http://www.halcyon.com/arborhts/bloggers_contract.doc" REL="nofollow">Bloggers Contract</a>, adapted from David Warlick&#8217;s <a HREF="http://classblogmeister.com/bloggers_contract.doc" REL="nofollow">original</a>. Good luck - Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Noon</title>
		<link>http://beyond-school.org/2007/08/11/11-notes-2-student-blogging-parent-permission-policy/#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Noon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our district has a "Permission to Publish" form that spells out the policy. I modified that document to include our classroom website.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You can see it online &lt;a HREF="http://truenorth.northernattitude.org/PermissionToPublish" REL="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I agree that we want to make it seem normal and natural. I also think that everyone's comfort zone  should be respected. So I offer a variety of options.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; There are many good reasons for someone to &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; want a child to become a "public figure." Since I work with elementary kids, I also let the kids use pseudonyms. Sometimes they disclose family information that that might be sensitive, and which I might not even recognize as being a problem for anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our district has a &#8220;Permission to Publish&#8221; form that spells out the policy. I modified that document to include our classroom website.</p>
<p>You can see it online <a HREF="http://truenorth.northernattitude.org/PermissionToPublish" REL="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>I agree that we want to make it seem normal and natural. I also think that everyone&#8217;s comfort zone  should be respected. So I offer a variety of options.</p>
<p> There are many good reasons for someone to <em>not</em> want a child to become a &#8220;public figure.&#8221; Since I work with elementary kids, I also let the kids use pseudonyms. Sometimes they disclose family information that that might be sensitive, and which I might not even recognize as being a problem for anyone.</p>
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