Comments on: New (School) Year’s Resolution: Toward the Creation of a Student "Learnerblogosphere" http://beyond-school.org/2007/07/08/new-school-years-resolution-toward-the-creation-of-a-student-learnerblogosphere/ A field headquarters in the War on Schooliness. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:30:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: From "LeaderTalk" to "LearnerTalk": Global Student Edublog Seeks Your Input | Beyond School http://beyond-school.org/2007/07/08/new-school-years-resolution-toward-the-creation-of-a-student-learnerblogosphere/#comment-754 From "LeaderTalk" to "LearnerTalk": Global Student Edublog Seeks Your Input | Beyond School Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:52:16 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=269#comment-754 [...] First, a recap. Why re-write what was already obsessively written since May? So: What would happen if we educators encouraged volunteer students to create a niche of learner edubloggers? That could be enlightening indeed. – post from 6 May 2007 [Giving student presentations at education conferences] means less (next to nothing, I would guess) to students compared to their daily school experience, and their participation in the larger world generally. They should be participating in our edublogger conversations on an equal footing, as equal partners. – post from 7 July 2007 [...] [...] First, a recap. Why re-write what was already obsessively written since May? So: What would happen if we educators encouraged volunteer students to create a niche of learner edubloggers? That could be enlightening indeed. – post from 6 May 2007 [Giving student presentations at education conferences] means less (next to nothing, I would guess) to students compared to their daily school experience, and their participation in the larger world generally. They should be participating in our edublogger conversations on an equal footing, as equal partners. – post from 7 July 2007 [...]

]]> By: Clay Burell http://beyond-school.org/2007/07/08/new-school-years-resolution-toward-the-creation-of-a-student-learnerblogosphere/#comment-283 Clay Burell Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:54:00 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=269#comment-283 Hi Scott,<br/><br/>I saw the post and it's good to see more ideas.<br/><br/>At the same time, it's good to commit to one and move with it to avoid "choice paralysis."<br/><br/>I think your "LearnerTalk" idea is the best one. Student "safety" and mutual motivation in numbers, an "elite student appeal" that will entice parents, and manageability by moderating adult(s) (you?). It's a winning ticket. Hi Scott,

I saw the post and it’s good to see more ideas.

At the same time, it’s good to commit to one and move with it to avoid “choice paralysis.”

I think your “LearnerTalk” idea is the best one. Student “safety” and mutual motivation in numbers, an “elite student appeal” that will entice parents, and manageability by moderating adult(s) (you?). It’s a winning ticket.

]]> By: Scott http://beyond-school.org/2007/07/08/new-school-years-resolution-toward-the-creation-of-a-student-learnerblogosphere/#comment-276 Scott Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:33:00 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=269#comment-276 I appreciate your clarification of the essential qualities of blogs: informal, authentic, extended. Really, I agree. Lurking in the background as I wrote was that now-verging-on-cliche contrast we've all heard so much between digital immigrants' use of email and digital natives' embrace of texting. Drawing a similar (and probably trite) analogy to the relative formality of blogging vs. Twittering is a leap I was all too willing to make. So you're right about blogging as an informal mode. What I think is fascinating are the apparent and/or real *generational* differences in perceptions of what's formal, what's informal, and (here's the kicker) what modes irresistibly draw us and students to commit desperately hopeful acts of creativity and expression? Personally, blogging makes all kinds of sense to me; after seven months, I still only feel like I'm scratching the surface. Connectivity, authenticity, discovery, everything you said. And I'm mostly Twitterilliterate for now. But. . . just felt the need to play the devil's advocate and ask whether students might have a different take.<br/><br/>Thanks for sounding the note of support. In this and your next post, you've given me lots to think about in terms of US vs. other countries' views on student safety, what you so aptly call "schoolhouse irrelevance" vs. the world's many relevances, etc. <br/><br/>By the way, if you haven't seen it already, check out Carolyn Foote's post on the topic of student bloggers. As usual, she thoughtfully extends the idea and concretely grounds it with. . . oh, ten more immediately usable ideas.<br/><br/>http://futura.edublogs.org/2007/07/09/seeking-first-to-understand/ I appreciate your clarification of the essential qualities of blogs: informal, authentic, extended. Really, I agree. Lurking in the background as I wrote was that now-verging-on-cliche contrast we’ve all heard so much between digital immigrants’ use of email and digital natives’ embrace of texting. Drawing a similar (and probably trite) analogy to the relative formality of blogging vs. Twittering is a leap I was all too willing to make. So you’re right about blogging as an informal mode. What I think is fascinating are the apparent and/or real *generational* differences in perceptions of what’s formal, what’s informal, and (here’s the kicker) what modes irresistibly draw us and students to commit desperately hopeful acts of creativity and expression? Personally, blogging makes all kinds of sense to me; after seven months, I still only feel like I’m scratching the surface. Connectivity, authenticity, discovery, everything you said. And I’m mostly Twitterilliterate for now. But. . . just felt the need to play the devil’s advocate and ask whether students might have a different take.

Thanks for sounding the note of support. In this and your next post, you’ve given me lots to think about in terms of US vs. other countries’ views on student safety, what you so aptly call “schoolhouse irrelevance” vs. the world’s many relevances, etc.

By the way, if you haven’t seen it already, check out Carolyn Foote’s post on the topic of student bloggers. As usual, she thoughtfully extends the idea and concretely grounds it with. . . oh, ten more immediately usable ideas.

http://futura.edublogs.org/2007/07/09/seeking-first-to-understand/

]]> By: Dana Huff http://beyond-school.org/2007/07/08/new-school-years-resolution-toward-the-creation-of-a-student-learnerblogosphere/#comment-272 Dana Huff Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:10:00 +0000 http://beyond-school.org/?p=269#comment-272 Something I did change for the next school year is an addition to my syllabus form -- you know, the form parents sign to say they understood and would support the expectations. I added a checkbox for parents to opt in or out of of online learning opportunities for their students. Truth be told, I only ever had trouble with one parent, and we handled it between us without getting administrators involved, but it shook me up a bit. I still have faith that wikis and blogs are excellent learning opportunities for students, and I will be using them even more this year than I did last year. Something I did change for the next school year is an addition to my syllabus form — you know, the form parents sign to say they understood and would support the expectations. I added a checkbox for parents to opt in or out of of online learning opportunities for their students. Truth be told, I only ever had trouble with one parent, and we handled it between us without getting administrators involved, but it shook me up a bit. I still have faith that wikis and blogs are excellent learning opportunities for students, and I will be using them even more this year than I did last year.

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